$NUGT #CoveredCalls – rolled this out a week and up a point.
Bought to close NUGT JUL 14 2017 31.5 Calls @ 0.01
Sold NUGT JUL 21 2017 32.5 Calls @ 0.27
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$MYL #CoveredCalls – Sold MYL…
$MYL #CoveredCalls – Sold MYL (Weekly) Sep 1 2017 42.5 Calls @ 0.57
$SVXY #ShortCalls – a couple…
$SVXY #ShortCalls – a couple of long term positions I will use to sell puts against –
Sold 1 SVXY Jan 18 2019 330.0 Call @ 9.10
Sold 1 SVXY Jan 18 2019 215.0 Call @ 31.85
$DUST #ShortPuts #Rolldown – taking…
$DUST #ShortPuts #Rolldown – taking some big gains on old positions and lowering the strike prices.
Bought to close DUST Jul 14 2017 35.0 Puts/Sold DUST Aug 4 2017 33.0 Puts @ 0.15 Credit
Bought to close DUST Jul 14 2017 34.0 Puts/Sold DUST Aug 4 2017 32.0 Puts @ 0.45 Credit
$FOSL #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold…
$FOSL #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold 1 FOSL Nov 17 2017 9.0 Put @ 1.40 with the stock at 9.56.
$GWW #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold…
$GWW #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold 1 GWW Dec 15 2017 120.0 Put @ 1.15 with the stock at 170.50.
The stock is already below it’s previous 5 year low.
$TSCO #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold…
$TSCO #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold TSCO Jan 19 2018 45.0 Puts @ 2.25 with the stock at 50.18.
The stock is already below it’s previous 3 year low
$VZ #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold…
$VZ #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold 1 VZ Dec 15 2017 41.0 Put @ 1.16
$GPC #ShortPuts #FallingKnife #OptionLadder -…
$GPC #ShortPuts #FallingKnife #OptionLadder – a new one today with the stock at 83.21.
Sold 1 GPC NOV 17 2017 75.0 Put @ 1.50
Sold 1 GPC FEB 16 2018 70.0 Put @ 1.45
The 3 year low on the stock is 76.50.
$ALXN #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Bought…
$ALXN #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Bought to close 1 ALXN AUG 18 2017 80.0 Put @ 0.05. It won’t trade any lower and I’m out 5 weeks early.
Originally sold on 05/25/2017 at 1.75.
$MNK #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Bought…
$MNK #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Bought to close 1 MNK JUL 21 2017 35.0 Put @ 0.05.
Originally sold on 11/30/2016 at 2.30
$ANF $MYL $VTR – missed…
$ANF $MYL $VTR – missed posting these trades earlier, closing out short positions at minimum value.
A couple of these are gone more than a month early!
Bought to Close 2 ANF AUG 18 2017 15.0 Calls @ 0.01
Originally sold at 1.00 on 12/22/16
Bought to Close 2 MYL JUL 21 2017 35.0 Puts @ 0.01
Originally sold at 0.57 on 03/01/17
Buy to Close 1 VTR AUG 18 2017 55.0 Put @ 0.05
Originally sold at 0.55 on 04/24/17
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold SVXY…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold SVXY Aug 25 95.0 Puts @ 1.15 with the stock at 165.55.
Traded these basically because I’m bored with this market
$TRIP #CoveredCalls – Sold 1…
$TRIP #CoveredCalls – Sold 1 TRIP Aug 11 2017 41.0 Call @ 1.10 with the stock at 36.92.
30 days until expiration.
$UVXY #ShortCalls – Bought to…
$UVXY #ShortCalls – Bought to close UVXY Jul 21 2017 32.0 Calls @ 0.01.
Originally sold 2 @ 0.91 and 2 @ 0.96 on 5/17/17
$NUGT #CoveredCalls – Sold NUGT…
$NUGT #CoveredCalls – Sold NUGT Jul 14 2017 31.5 Calls @ 0.11 with the stock at 28.31.
3 days until expiration.
I hope I’m forced to roll this one out.
$NUGT #ShortPuts – Sold 1…
$NUGT #ShortPuts – Sold 1 NUGT Aug 11 2017 23.5 Put @ 1.09.
This replaces the near term strike 28.0 Put I covered yesterday at 0.86
$SVXY #ShortCalls – Sold 1…
$SVXY #ShortCalls – Sold 1 SVXY Jan 18 2019 330.0 Call @ 8.50 with the stock at 161.46
Adding to my position.
I will add if the price spikes.
$SVXY #ShortCalls – Yesterday I…
$SVXY #ShortCalls – Yesterday I Sold 1 SVXY Jan 18 2019 330.0 Call @ 8.20. I will add if the price spikes.
$INTC $GE $VZ- Some of…
$INTC $GE $VZ- Some of the bluest of the blue chips are starting to crack. Worth noting because the #FAANG stocks can’t hold this market up all by themselves.
$UAA #ShortPuts – Bought to…
$UAA #ShortPuts – Bought to close UAA JUL 21 2017 17.5 Puts @ 0.01 in an IRA account.
Out two weeks early and there is no more to make here.
Sold 02/02/2017 @ 0.80.
$NUGT #ShortPuts – Bought to…
$NUGT #ShortPuts – Bought to close 1 NUGT Jul 14 2017 28.0 Put @ 0.86 to close out a position at a profit that was over 2 points in the money in the pre-market this morning.
We have had a very small bump in $GLD (.2%) but a much bigger move in $NUGT (6%).
I still have more Puts a lower strikes.
#OptionsExpiration #Weeklys #July7 – Not…
#OptionsExpiration #Weeklys #July7 – Not much going on this week. A small correction ended up being wiped out by the close today. #BTFD
Nice to see another round of $DUST Puts expire.
No assignments this week, and a light week next week.
–Expirations —
DUST (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 28 Puts
DUST (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 34 Puts
TRIP (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 40 Calls (Covered)
SVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 85 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 90 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 95 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 105 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 110 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 113 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 120 Puts
UVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 11 Calls (Covered)
UVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 11.5 Calls (Covered)
UVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 12 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 12.5 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 13 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 13.5 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 14 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 15 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 16 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 17 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 18 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jul 7 2017 19 Calls
$UVXY #CoveredCalls – I rolled…
$UVXY #CoveredCalls – I rolled this week’s strike 11.0 calls up to 11.5 for a 0.33 Credit and I rolled this week’s strike 11.5 calls up to 12.0 for a 0.27 Credit.
I’m guessing next week’s UVXY calls open down on Monday so I’m selling them now.
It sure would be nice to see a volatility move last more than 8 hours.
$SVXY #ShortPuts – with a…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – with a lot of positions rolling off today I’m trying to add some for next week without getting too aggressive. More contracts but lower strike prices makes me more comfortable.
Sold SVXY Jul 14 2017 115.0 Puts @ 0.26
Sold SVXY Jul 14 2017 114.0 Puts @ 0.25 & 0.30.
All this with the stock above 156.
$SJM #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold…
$SJM #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold 1 SJM Jan 19 2018 100.0 Put @ 1.60.
This is not normally a very volatile stock.
$DUST #ShortCalls – Added some…
$DUST #ShortCalls – Added some short calls to partially hedge some 33/34/35 short Puts coming due in the next few weeks.
Sold DUST Jul 21 2017 42.0 Calls @ 0.50
Sold DUST Jul 28 2017 45.0 Calls @ 0.50
$DUST #ShortPuts – Bought to…
$DUST #ShortPuts – Bought to close DUST Jul 7 2017 32.0 Puts @ 0.05.
If it hadn’t closed at the opening I would have cancelled the order and let it expire.
Originally sold 06/08/2017 @ 5.85 on a rolldown of a higher strike option.
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold 1…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold 1 SVXY Aug 4 2017 85.0 Put @ 1.09 with the stock at 150.30.
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold 1…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold 1 SVXY Aug 4 2017 90.0 Put @ 1.28 with the stock at 149.80.
$UVXY #ShortCalls – Sold UVXY…
$UVXY #ShortCalls – Sold UVXY Jul 28 2017 20.0 Calls @ 0.59 with the stock at 10.98.
$TSLA #ShortPuts – Sold 1…
$TSLA #ShortPuts – Sold 1 TSLA JUL 28 2017 245.0 Put @ 1.19. Lowest available strike
$SVXY #ShortPuts – some more…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – some more small #IRA trades –
Sold 1 SVXY Jul 28 1017 95.0 Put @ 1.18
Sold 1 SVXY Aug 11 2017 80.0 Put @ 1.18
$SVXY #ShortPuts – some #IRA…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – some #IRA cash backed trades –
Sold SVXY Jul 28 2017 90.0 Puts @ 0.98
Sold SVXY Aug 11 2017 85.0 Puts @ 1.40
Sold SVXY Aug 18 2017 85.0 Puts @ 1.70
$TSLA #ShortPuts – Selling offsetting…
$TSLA #ShortPuts – Selling offsetting puts against long term 500/550 Calls.
Sold TSLA JUL 14 2017 260.0 Puts @ 0.57.
Six days to expiration
$UVXY #ShortCalls – a couple…
$UVXY #ShortCalls – a couple for the next two expiration Fridays –
Sold UVXY JUL 14 2017 18.0 Calls @ 0.28
Sold UVXY JUL 21 2017 27.0 Calls @ 0.25
$QQQ – Nasdaq diverging from…
$QQQ – Nasdaq diverging from the DOW and S&P – not sure it means anything yet but worth watching
Thurs’ % intraday $VIX spike…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – After hours…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – After hours trades as SVXY dipped after 4:00. At least gives me some exposure for the short week next week.
Sold SVXY JUL 7 2017 105.0 Puts @ 0.20
Sold SVXY JUL 7 2017 110.0 Puts @ 0.25
Sold SVXY JUL 7 2017 113.0 Puts @ 0.35
Sold SVXY JUL 7 2017 120.0 Puts @ 0.50
#OptionsExpiration #Weeklys #Jun30 – Wow,…
#OptionsExpiration #Weeklys #Jun30 – Wow, what a week. It was supposed to be a light one until a 50% move in the VIX index from 10 to 15 on Thursday created some opprtunities in $SVXY and $UVXY.
With only 3.5 trading days available next week, I don’t expect many fireworks (except on the 4th of course).
No Assignments this week.
— Expirations —
NUGT (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 36 Calls (Covered)
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 85 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 90 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 99 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 102 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 137 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 138 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 143 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 144 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 144.5 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 145 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 145.5 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 146 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 146.5 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 147 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 147.5 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 148 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 148.5 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 167 Calls
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 170 Calls
TRIP (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 40 Calls (Covered)
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 10.5 Calls (Covered)
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 11 Calls (Covered)
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 11.5 Calls (Covered)
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 12 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 12.5 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 13 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 30 2017 22 Calls
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold SVXY…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold SVXY Jul 7 2017 113.0 Puts @ 0.30. Margin free since the puts are farther out of the money than my short calls. Three and a half days until expiration in a short trading week.
$UPS #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Bought…
$UPS #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Bought to close UPS Jul 21 2017 85.0 Puts @ 0.01. They won’t trade any lower and the options don’t expire for 3 weeks.
Sold the first batch at 0.66 on 2/1/17 and sold the 2nd batch at 0.82 the same day.
The stock must have been collapsing that day but the 52 week low was 102.12 in mid-May so these were never threatened.
$UVXY #ShortCalls #Weeklys – in…
$UVXY #ShortCalls #Weeklys – in a new account, initiating new UVXY positions, very small, while looking for options trading above 1
Sold 1 UVXY Jul 28 2017 12.o Call @ 1.09
Sold 1 UVXY Aug 4 2017 14.o Call @ 1.06
$NUGT #ShortPuts #OptionLadder – in…
$NUGT #ShortPuts #OptionLadder – in an account with a large $DUST short Put position I sold the following
Sold 1 NUGT Jul 14 2017 28.0 Put @ $1.07
Sold 1 NUGT Jul 21 2017 27.0 Put @ $1.14
Sold 1 NUGT Jul 28 2017 26.0 Put @ $1.22
$SVXY #ShortCalls – Sold 1…
$SVXY #ShortCalls – Sold 1 SVXY Sep 15 2017 205.0 Call @ 2.67 with the stock at 162.60
$SVXY #ShortCalls – late fill…
$SVXY #ShortCalls – late fill after the close with the stock at 161:
Sold 1 SVXY Jan 18 2019 210.0 Call @ 32.65
$SVXY #ShortPuts #OptionLadder – not…
$SVXY #ShortPuts #OptionLadder – not going too far past the split date. I’ll let these expire.
Sold SVXY JUL 21 2017 80.0 Puts @ 0.43
Sold SVXY JUL 28 2017 80.0 Puts @ 0.83
Sold SVXY AUG 4 2017 80.0 Puts @ 1.15
SVXY AUG 18 2017 70.0 Puts @ 1.40
$SVXY #ShortCalls – Given my…
$SVXY #ShortCalls – Given my exposure for tomorrow in the SVXY puts, on the bounce back in SVXY I sold the following:
Sold 1 SVXY Sep 15 2017 205.0 Call @ 2.47
Sold 1 SVXY Dec 15 2017 205.0 Call @ 9.95
Sold 1 SVXY Jan 18 2019 210.0 Call @ 31.55
$SVXY #ShortPuts #IRA #OptionLadder -…
$SVXY #ShortPuts #IRA #OptionLadder – in some IRA accounts that still had a little unused cash –
Sold SVXY JUN 30 2017 137.0 Puts @ 0.35 – Expires tomorrow
Sold SVXY JUL 21 2017 111.0 Puts @ 1.60
Sold SVXY JUL 21 2017 107.0 Puts @ 1.30
Sold SVXY JUL 28 2017 90.0 Puts @ 1.09
$UVXY #ShortCalls #VXXGame #OptionLadder -…
$UVXY #ShortCalls #VXXGame #OptionLadder – added on to all these positions today –
Sold UVXY Jun 30 2017 12.5 Calls @ 0.36 – expires tomorrow
Sold UVXY Jul 7 2017 18.0 Calls @ 0.27
Sold UVXY Aug 18 2017 23.0 Calls @ 1.11
Sold UVXY Sep 15 2017 60.0 Calls @ 0.67
Sold UVXY Dec 15 2017 37.0 Calls @ 1.93
Sold UVXY Jan 19 2018 60.0 Calls @ 1.38
Sold UVXY Jan 18 2019 60.0 Calls @ 2.10
$SVXY $UVXY – too many…
$SVXY $UVXY – too many trades to post. I’ll post “the best of” later.
At the peak of 15.16, the VIX index was up 50% today
$UVXY #ShortCalls – Sold UVXY…
$UVXY #ShortCalls – Sold UVXY AUG 18 2017 23.0 Calls @ 0.63.
Sold UVXY DEC 15 2017 37.0 Calls @ 1.29.
I was trying to cover some of these but I’m adding a few more for now.
I’ll cover on the next pullback in $UVXY, which could be TODAY… or not
$UVXY #ShortCalls – Sold UVXY…
$UVXY #ShortCalls – Sold UVXY JUL 7 2017 12.5 Calls @ 0.27. Short trading week next week.
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold SVXY…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold SVXY JUN 30 2017 145.0 Puts @ 0.38. These expire tomorrow
$XOM #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Bought…
$XOM #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Bought to close XOM JUL 21 2017 70.0 Puts @ 0.01.
They won’t trade any lower and don’t expire for 3 more weeks.
Originally sold on 01/31/2017 at 0.80.
$SJM #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold…
$SJM #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold 1 SJM JAN 19 2018 105.0 Put @ 1.80 with the stock at 119.30
$UAA #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Bought…
$UAA #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Bought to close UAA Jul 21 2017 17.5 Puts @ 0.01. They won’t trade any lower and I’m out over 3 weeks early.
Originally sold in early February at 0.90. The stock never reached the strike price.
$TRIP #CoveredCalls – Sold TRIP…
$TRIP #CoveredCalls – Sold TRIP Jun 30 2017 40.0 Calls @ 0.15. These expire Friday and I would welcome assignment.
$VIX – below 10 again,…
$VIX – below 10 again, heading toward the low from Monday
$TRIP #CoveredCalls – Sold TRIP…
$TRIP #CoveredCalls – Sold TRIP JUL 7 2017 40.0 Calls @ 0.40. Seven trading days until expiration with a short trading week next week.
$MRO #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold…
$MRO #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold MRO JAN 19 2018 10.0 Puts @ 0.82. Adding to and averaging up my position.
$APC #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold…
$APC #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold 1 APC NOV 17 2017 37.5 Put @ 1.25
$NUGT #ShortPuts – Sold NUGT…
$NUGT #ShortPuts – Sold NUGT AUG 18 2017 22.0 Puts @ 0.72 with the stock at 31.89.
$TRIP – nice little recovery…
$TRIP – nice little recovery in this #FallingKnife today
$MRO #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold…
$MRO #ShortPuts #FallingKnife – Sold MRO Oct 20 2017 11.0 Puts @ 0.87. Adding to and averaging up my position.
$SIG ShortPuts #FallingKnife – today…
$SIG ShortPuts #FallingKnife – today I covered some short July 60.0 Puts at a 1.10 that I originally sold for 1.90 and 2.00 in January.
Despite the fact that it is out of the money 3 points with 4 weeks to go, in late May the stock collapsed to 46.09 before gaining most of it back recently.
I decided I don’t need the added risk in this name because I am still short July 50/55 Puts, October 45 Puts and Jan 45/40/35 Puts that are nicely profitable.
One of my unwritten rules is that if Puts that I sold for 2 bucks rises to 13 or 14 dollars and then give me a chance to get out ahead, I take it, and don’t look back.
I would have taken the stock if it had stayed down. The current move in this SP500 name shows why that would have worked too.
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold SVXY…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold SVXY Jun 30 2017 147.5 Puts @ 0.76 with the stock at 162.44
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold SVXY…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Sold SVXY JUN 30 2017 145.0 Puts @ 0.55 with the stock at 162.85.
Expires Friday
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Selling some…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Selling some more puts – the first expires Friday and is at a strike below the last major dip in the stock.
Sold SVXY Jun 30 2017 145.0 Puts @ 0.47
Also Sold SVXY Jul 28 2017 90.0 Puts @ 0.74 in an IRA
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Selling some…
$SVXY #ShortPuts – Selling some puts to make back a little of what I lost when the margin clerk had me cover some long term 150 Calls.
All these expire Friday and are at strikes below the last major dip.
Sold SVXY Jun 30 2017 138.0 Puts @ 0.28
Sold SVXY Jun 30 2017 147.0 Puts @ 0.57
Sold SVXY Jun 30 2017 148.0 Puts @ 0.76
Sold SVXY Jun 30 2017 148.5 Puts @ 0.76
$GILD #CoveredCalls – A couple…
$GILD #CoveredCalls – A couple of call positions against long stock and short puts with the stock at 71.60 –
Sold GILD Nov 17 2017 85.0 Calls @ 0.85
Sold GILD Nov 17 2017 90.0 Calls @ 0.53
$SVXY #ShortCalls – Sold 1…
$SVXY #ShortCalls – Sold 1 SVXY Jan 18 2019 320 Call @ 13.10 with the stock at 167.97.
Highest available strike for now.
This gives me more room to sell SVXY puts on the next downdraft.
edit: with the VIX below 10, the timing of this trade should look pretty good over the next month.
$GILD $ALXN – These have…
$GILD $ALXN – These have rallied enough that selling OTM calls with strikes near the 52 week highs makes sense against my portfolio of short puts
#OptionsExpiration #Weeklys #Jun23 – Only…
#OptionsExpiration #Weeklys #Jun23 – Only short volatility trades this week. And the well is about to run dry on those.
We need a sharp pullback in the market so I can re-load. No assignments this week.
— Expirations —
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 75 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 80 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 85 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 90 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 97 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 99 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 106 Puts
SVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 112 Puts
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 12.5 Calls (Covered)
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 13 Calls (Covered)
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 13.5 Calls (Covered)
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 16.5 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 17 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 17.5 Calls
UVXY (Weekly) Jun 23 2017 24.5 Calls
$SVXY #ShortCalls – a couple…
$SVXY #ShortCalls – a couple of speculative trades for next week with the $VIX index below 10.
Sold SVXY Jun 30 2017 167.0 Calls @ 2.27
Sold SVXY Jun 30 2017 170.0 Calls @ 1.06
Above the alltime high and easy to roll next Friday if I am wrong
